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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

Weapons manufacturers are terrorist organizations

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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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  • Refurbished Refurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Boeing has since been expanding who they kill to include passengers on their commercial airplanes along with whistleblowers. Can’t say they’re not trying.

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    Northrop Grumman has entered the chat.

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      Don’t forget about good ol’ Texas Instruments

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        It’s true. Their calculators were responsible for the math class massacre of '92

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          Never forget the 1992 mathssacre.

          But also, they build the guidance systems for hellfire missiles.

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      Does McDonnell Douglas count as Boeing?

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      General Electric was there too

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    Fun fact: Lockheed uses Unity to make XR training apps and Unity used to (maybe still does I’m not sure) partner with them to help build said apps

    • Alsephina@lemmy.mlBanned from community
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      Even more reason to ditch Unity!

  • BmeBenji (he/him)@lemm.ee
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    Slightly off-topic but I really enjoyed the way Horizon Zero Dawn (spoilers ahead) illustrated the military industrial complex with Ted Faro. The dude was so convinced he was right about everything that not only did he help create the deadliest legion of machines ever conceived, he also deleted all knowledge acquired by humanity because he fucked up so bad that he thought anyone less smart than him (read:everyone else) would fuck up just as bad if not worse with the same knowledge. I imagine most real military contractors are lead by people who are similarly humble

    • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      That pissed me off so much. I really wanted the world to gain access to APOLLO (I’m not saying i thought the story was bad, rather that it was good and I was very invested) (please don’t spoil forbidden west for me in case that comes up)

      • BmeBenji (he/him)@lemm.ee
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        Oh I’m still going through Forbidden West. When I read the first part of your comment I thought you were spoiling it for me lol

        • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Nope just the ELEUTHIA-9 cradle and GAIA Prime from the first game

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      Fuck Ted Faro

  • darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml
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    quick GIS

    …Raytheon’s logo really is that loading circle

    • Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      When you’re just sitting around at a wedding and the loading circle pops up you gotta find cover.

    • trolololol@lemmy.world
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      Uiih is it going to complete animating fill circle?? I’m waiting like forever here

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    It’s none of those. General Dynamics produces the humble 155mm artillery shell. It’s not flashy but artillery has killed more people than any other weapon in modern warfare.

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      AK-47 is pretty high up there too

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        But at least AKs are a symbol of liberation movements. US military equipment, not so much.

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    Huh, so I looked up the top 100 arms manufacturers in the world. 41% of them are the from the US, with the entire top 5 being from the US. The next biggest are china with 8%, and the UK with 7%.

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    deleted by creator

    • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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      Careful

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjY897CCu4g

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    ”bUt ItS tHe fAuLt oF tHe AiRLiNe MaInTaNAnCe NoT tHe EnGiNe”

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    Defense of Ukraine is a great example of how weapons can be used for good. But definitely not all that these companies do, as Gaza shows.

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      It’s sad, but countries like Russia show us very clearly why nations that want peace need to prepare for war.

      I would love to not need to spend a cent on our military, or weapons manufacturing, but the hard reality is very clearly that if we aren’t capable of mass producing weapons, we’ll likely be invaded and killed.

      That’s a major part of the issue Europe is facing now: We’ve scaled down weapons production since the 90’s, and now that we suddenly need millions of artillery shells it takes time to rebuild production capacity.

      Hopefully Russia gets the picture soon, that we’ll keep scaling up until every Russian invader is gone, and we can go back to not spending money on war…

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      Jesus the answers to this are unhinged. Didn’t realize this space was quite that far up Putler’s ugly ass.

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        Induced demand – the production of weapons necessitates the use of weapons in order to keep shares from crashing. Like a shoe factory regularly changing the design and fashion to keep from flooding the market, blood is spilled to keep the 401Ks safe.

        Welcome to the Second Cold War, you’ve been here along.

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          Maybe Russia shouldn’t induce demand then.

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            Amazing, a century latter the blame is still squarely placed on Russia. Those people must not be capable of self-determination, am I right my good Cold Warrior? Good thing we had this stockpile of depleted uranium, by jingo! So what if it leaches into the groundwater? Canadian mining firms have been poisoning Ukrainian groundwater for decades now! What’s a little rare-earth-elements between allies, amiright?

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              Maybe Putler should stop attacking and invading free countries? I am sure the blame would lessen. Also, less raping in the invaded territories would go a long way, I guess.

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      Russian invasion has been a goddamn goldmine to weapon manufacturers. Not only those selling to Ukraine but also got a lot of European countries to re-arm and restart domestic production.

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        Yup, who would have though that Russia invading their neighbour suddenly caused the entirety of western Europe to start the largest investments in military and weapons manufacturing since the cold war?

        Looking at the results of this war so far (major expansion of NATO in the North, massively increased military spending in all of NATO, massively increased size of the Ukrainian military), you would almost think Putins goal was something completely different than preventing NATO expansion and “de-militarizing” Ukraine.

        It’s almost like the best way of preventing your neighbours from building huge militaries and joining alliances is by cooperating with them and helping them feel safe, rather than threatening, coercing and bombing them.

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          It is pretty funny how for us Finns, Putin managed with one move to do what decades of pro-NATO propaganda couldn’t and push us to join.

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            Lol at the people downvoting this like that isn’t exactly what happened: NATO had wanted Finland to join for years, but they didn’t want to join, for fear of provoking Russia. Putin shows the world that appeasement doesn’t work, and Finland joins in a heartbeat.

            • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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              This is lemmy.ml. It is what it is

              • CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz
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                I actually hadn’t realised that yet, thanks for pointing it out, I thought I was going crazy with the amount of people suddenly supporting Russian invaders

    • Spectre@lemmy.mlOP
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      Ukraine is ruled by a far right government along with Nazis

      • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
      • Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
      • NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
      • The blueprint of regime change operations
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
      • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
      • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
      • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
      • Truthout, 2015: The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made
      • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
      • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
      • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
      • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
      • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
      • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
      • Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
      • The Conversation, 2022: Ukraine war follows decades of warnings that NATO expansion into Eastern Europe could provoke Russia
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        Ever since Ukraine’s February revolution, the Kremlin has characterised the new leaders in Kiev as a “fascist junta” made up of neo-Nazis and anti-Semites, set on persecuting, if not eradicating, the Russian-speaking population.

        This is demonstrably false. Far-right parties failed to pass a 5% barrier to enter parliament, although if they had banded together, and not split their vote, they would have probably slipped past the threshold.

        Lol your own sources are telling you that you talk BS

        Edit: found another one lol

        The odious Russian media tried to paint Ukraine as a land of Nazis, though that is patently wrong. Ukraine has a thriving Jewish community, and its far-right is still on the fringe. It’s the same in America.

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        Bro the nazi shit in Ukraine has been proven untrue s very long time ago

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          I, for one, am shocked, shocked that defenders of Russia are still using the same easily disproven lies to justify invading, occupying, and murdering a neighboring country.

          It’s not like Russia has a history of lying about its military operations in Ukraine or anything, right?

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      “Defense” is when you aid the overthrow of a government to replace it with a fascist one that kills eastern Ukrainians like in Donbass, DPR, LPR, and Crimea

      Then they wonder why Crimeans overwhelming support Russia against the post-2014 fascist coup gov in Ukraine

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        Wow, I Wonder why everyone that’s left in the regime that deports and persecutes dissenters says they are in support of that regime?

        Ukraine never invaded anybody. Giving them weapons so they can throw out the people invading them, taking their land and molesting their people is a good thing. Russia has clearly shown that the only way to get rid of the plague that is Russian soldiers on foreign soil is to kill them. That’s why we have this war that Russia has chosen to engage in, and which Russia can choose to withdraw from at any time. That’s why Russians are dying by the hundreds of thousands.

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          Sopuli.xyz user detected, opinion rejected

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        Defence is when you defend your country against an invader.

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          Correct, and I strongly support our Ukrainian comrades in the DPR and LPR in their resistance against the fascist coup government.

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            Yeah, the famous fascists that are actively working hard to join the EU, which we’ve seen so clearly the past decade just loves having fascist states in its ranks. You know, the fascist government that had an actual election as late as 2019 where southern and eastern regions largely voted for the person that won.

            Notice how there was actually a change of power in that election - a known hallmark of fascist states.

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            I was more thinking when Russia invaded and tried to encircle Kyiv and whatnot. But yeah, when you fight against an attacker, it’s defence. It’s a general term rather than a value position.

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