Senator Mike Lee has forgotten that the internet doesn’t forget.

out of curiosity… does that first fact account for the continued expansion of the universe?

its not a very large dick, so, that makes it easier.

I dunno but I think he’s got a panther in the background. that’s a huge cat.

Arrest everyone for corruption, too.

I agree. Making teenage sons look at your porn habits had to be some kind of child abuse.

And that’s before realizing he probably has some really weird porn habits.

It’s impossible for the average American to be that well informed.

Let’s do a little exercise. List the legal status of abortion in every state. Weed? Gas leaf blowers? Healthcare.

I can’t. I doubt there’s many who can.

Further, “Switzerland does it” is * not* a very good argument. On the practicality side of it, the US is far, far more comparable to the entire EU in population and land area than we are to any given member state.

In the US, it would become a tool for special interests to advance unpopular agendas by bypassing normal representation, relying on the inability of normal Americans to actually read everything.

This is why we have representatives in the first place.

I kinda disagree. The biggest problem here is that there are far too many special interests that would submit shit nobody else agrees with, but might get passed because nobody has the time to keep up on all the potential things and look into what they actually mean.

Imagine if you will some evangelical group trying to ban apple pies because a bunch of their kids managed to get their hands on a copy of american pie. Give the referendum some bland name like “protecting our kids”… then lie about what’s in the bill.

Okay, it’s a silly premise, but imagine all the special interests groups suddenly crafting law, lying about what the laws would be, flooding the zone with their bullshit and seeing what sticks.

Peaceful protests have been happening every week since he took office. And they’re the only thing that actually have a chance to change any of this.

Either get a rifle and put your money where your mouth is so we can move on without out- and maybe your family survives your stupidity; or join us.

But don’t fucking egg others into downing something you’re too cowardly to do.

I hope you join us, it’s a waste otherwise.

Plenty of south african farmers to import.

you don’t have a 100 million martyrs willing to die to try and assassinate some one.

Not even Hitler had that many assassination attempts. All ~42 of which failed.

And by the way, it’s not just your martyrs that are going to get fucked if they try it. You get that, right?

If you want to call them “victories”, you can, I guess.

Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam were all political wars without any clear military objective or purpose. They were basically unwinnable from the US side, and we “lost” because political pressure from the home front grew to the point where it was necessary to end the conflicts.

Even if you disagree with that statement, 1.1 million Viet Cong and N. Vietnamese military personnel died, with another estimated 2 million civilian deaths on both sides of the Vietnamese war. Vietnam’s infrastructure was absolutely destroyed.

In the second Iraq war, its estimated at 260k-460k deaths; also with their infrastructure being absolutely destroyed.

the Afghanistan war has similar numbers and similar a similar toll on infrastructure.

For a more accurate depiction of what a second US civil war would look like I suggest looking at The Troubles in Ireland. Only it’s going to be a lot more people killing their neighbors across a country with 360 million people. it will be a bloodbath, it will be awful, and it’s going to be ended by the military bombing the everliving fuck out of whatever is still moving at the end.

stop glorifying violence. It’s not going to end the way you think it will.

and to what end?

No seriously.

You actually believe trump is the one calling the shots? he’s a fucking patsy. do you have any idea how many patsies they currently have lined up? how many martyrs do you have ready to go?

and the 2nd amendment exists.

that rifle ain’t gonna match this
Or this
or this
or this

The 2A is basically useless in modern warfare. .

oh. he was a total asshole. But even he respected the need for representation and to constrain the elites from doing shit. At least, he was later on. (See Discourse on Livy)

I’m just saying, assholes like trump being all Machiavellian seem to forget the whole “we know how behead” aspect of being an assholish monarch.

Is there even a legitimate reason to have plainclothes security to arrest people inside the LA FBI headquarters? Surely they have plenty of uniformed officers onsite.

Machiavelli had some useful points.

like the whole, “if you rule through fear to keep people in line, they’ll take your head off the moment you’re weak” observation.

I kinda wish it would happen to the president….

You know.

Like.

Impeach… convict… arrest…

… is there something wrong if your favorite movie is top gun….?

(Mine is 1950’s Day The Earth Stood Still, mind.)

He wears lifts, which is why he’s always hunched forward slightly, too.

But yeah, it looks like he “just” stumbled a bit- we’ve all been there.

Still, gonna mock him for it.