But doesn’t doing that in Voyager simply apply the base Lemmy instance block? If so then it merely mutes communities from it, but doesn’t block users from the instance from posting, commenting, responding, sending DMs, etc.
It’s not nothing, but it falls far short of expectations, especially for something called by that name.
Isn’t intelligence somewhat like the word “good” - as in, someone must be “good at” something, rather than inherently. Are cars “good”? (sometimes but not always…) Are cats? Are people? e.g. regarding the latter, there are many tasks for which a computing device is much better than most people - e.g. sorting a list of >1000000 elements, within one second (and then doing that task, without pausing or slowing down or error, in perpetuity). So the term “good” is only definable given a known fitness landscape.
Which then becomes somewhat naive to try to extrapolate beyond that - bc then someone good at sports could be said to be “intelligent” (at performing their particular sport?), or someone with high emotional flexibility at adaptive to new circumstances, etc. Ironically enough, someone with good accounting skills (always thinking within the box, that being the whole point for them) would likely make a horrible scientist (who needs to think OUTSIDE of the box), and potentially though not guaranteed vice versa.
So intelligence must be reflective of… SOMETHING, blah blah hand waving meaning things that “I” am good at, basically. I know right, I have all the best-er-est words, I am such a jenius, and so on.
How would that measure the intelligence of a tribal person who has not seen abstracted geometrical shapes?
So yeah, they would be less “intelligent” at performing those tasks that are measured by the test. Corollary: people on average may legitimately have gotten more intelligent over time, depending on availability of schooling. Thus necessitating adjustment of the measurement system, if the real goal was not to measure “intelligence” and rather to provide some kind of separation among people based solely on that singular metric (which itself should be questioned, if the people doing so are wise rather than merely intelligent:-).
Except that they also write the Lemmy sourcecode. Hence you can begin to understand why we cannot receive notifications about being banned or posts/comments removed, nor appeal via a modlog, nor be able to DM a mod bc you can’t even see who to talk to when the modlog simply says “mod”, nor if OP violates a rule somewhere - even on some other instance & community entirely - can others continue their discourse when OP’s post is summarily removed or then banned (on Reddit the link to the post is merely removed from the list of links shown in the community feed, but the post itself remains viable and people can finish their thoughts, unlike Lemmy where even after typing something all out you may literally not be allowed to hit Send), nor was it a priority to allow mods to see reports and thus be able to effectively moderate from another instance, thus freeing them somewhat from the control of a single admin, etc.
It’s not even a bad thing that I am saying - especially on their end: they develop the Lemmy codebase how they want it to be, bc it was their idea and they did practically all of the work. If we want different, then we would need to similarly put in the effort to create it (and before that, open our eyes to see clearly what is going on and where we might rather be heading instead). Many have already started, like K/Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks, Mastodon, Friendica, etc.
Also, while it is indeed the admins that mass ban people from communities that they’ve never even heard of across the entire instance, the mods are not entirely unknown to Lemmy users themselves. There are many famous stories, such as the one who told a user that he wanted to kill them, bc they posted a screenshot of two people kissing in some kind of dating game claiming that it was “triggering”. Those mods are protected by those admins. In turn, nobody else across the Fediverse is protected from either those mods or especially those admins.
This is their software, and we are on their platform, always remember.
And yet that is precisely what the mods chose - by abandoning the community for days at a time (tbf they claimed to read it “daily” and thus be active - but the difference between that and actually checking the moderation reports submitted is an enormous gap!), they left it to her to have to clean up. She did not want it, but she stepped up nonetheless. Then they threw her under the bus and drove it over her.
I wish them luck in the new community. The rest of the community though seems to have different plans:-). e.g. !196@lemmy.world has 9 posts submitted in the last day (24 hours), and !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone has the same (10 but close enough), while for !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone I stopped counting when it reached that same amount in just the last 2 hours, and then I did continue just one more time to see that it again had that same amount in the previous 2 hours before that.
Also, a week ago that’s how many posts !196@lemmy.world had before the mods moved back to it. So that community basically has no new posts at all since the attempted move.
While the community with the new mods (!onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone) has 10 times more posts than both of the other 2 communities combined. It’s as clear a signal as one could hope to hear that they were not fans of this whole process. They choose Ada and lemmy.blahaj.zone and the new mods over the old remote LW mods in charge of the LW community, even at the cost of the effort to move to another community.
You can do whatever you want… however, so too can they. I may or may not agree with either side (fwiw Drag is obviously trolling, though that also seems entirely irrelevant?), but I defend blahaj’s right to do as they please on their own instance - which they pay for and maintain with little help from others on the Fediverse? - and the post “Neopronouns are not trolling” seems fairly clear to me.
My problem lies rather with how that is not communicated clearly to people. It is not linked in the sidebar, it is not pinned even on lemmy.blahaj.zone, it is in a community that I at first thought was Local-Only b/c it was difficult to find from Lemmy.World (b/c of the different display “Blahaj Lemmy Meta” vs. link-to names !main@lemmy.blahaj.zone) - although it also seems cross-posted to 196 (but why MUST someone be subscribed to that one?) - and especially: when you visit that (cross-)post from some other instance, let’s say lemmy.world via this link, the only text you see on the sidebar is for c/196, not the sidebar of lemmy.blahaj.zone, or from this link the text for the Meta community is equally uninformative, plus most apps don’t show any sidebar text by default anyway, either burying it behind several button presses or perhaps not making it available at all.
So if you just wandered into a post federated and therefore hosted elsewhere, you may have no clue what is going on there? This is exasperated further by the sidebar text of !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone or !main@lemmy.blahaj.zone stating “other rules” which links to Lemmy.World, even when visited while on lemmy.blahaj.zone!?!? And then that post says nothing whatsoever about neopronouns - the closest mention is “prejudice of any kind” is banned but this is definitely a more contentious issue that those 4 words do not next to nothing to clarify. Also I don’t see much of anything in the Lemmy.World ToS that would apply - possibly the text about “misinformation” but again, that seems far from clear, and more for an issue where the admins of Lemmy.World and the admins of lemmy.blahaj.zone would need to come to some kind of mutual agreement or at least understanding.
The tools made available on the Fediverse to help guide people into understanding what the rules are are abysmally inadequate. Ada can run their own instance however they wish, though it sure would be good to find better ways to communicate the expected behaviors rather than “ban people” or “not ban people” after waiting for them to walk into this issue unknowingly. I guess there is also “defederate from lemmy.blahaj.zone” vs. “not defederate from lemmy.blahaj.zone” as well - though it sucks that no other options in-between have yet been presented here. Beehaw at least has its core principles statement, though it too is not linked to from anywhere unless you visit the instance explicitly in order to investigate it (except from PieFed, where a message is presented - that’s fucking awesome!:-D).
Things like this are why imho the Fediverse is not at all like merely using emails. There you simply click “Send” and it goes off to wherever it needs to be, but to navigate Lemmy without being banned for some off-hand remark requires quite a bit deeper knowledge than that.
So like, if you had read the aforementioned post about “Neopronouns are not trolling”, then YDI (which b/c people won’t read the sidebar even in this community, stands for “You Deserved It”:-D) for inciting drama? However, if you had not, I definitely see why it at least comes across as a BPR (“Bait-Provoked Reaction”), coming a day or two after that “announcement” had been made (which again, how were people supposed to have known that?). Therefore it is at least possible that you are both correct, and merely talking past one another, each not willing to find common ground with the other.
An excellent counterargument. Fwiw I think he’s two steps ahead of that though - the next step, as you indicated, is the other side to that story, but then the step after that is the question of what to do then? And to that, like Luigi himself, I must respond that I do not know. Either way it is sad to see what is going on, that it has come to this - regardless of whether the CEO himself deserved it or not.
I love reading your comments here. So many people lately keep trying to tell others what to do, with so few reflecting the spirit that “I may not agree with you (or whatever, regardless), but I’ll defend to the death your right to do it.” Ironically the mob mentality reminds me of the simplicity of fascist thinking. Person 1: “Spin up an instance, create a community, or just use different words and you can do whatever you want!” Person 2: “No, you will do as I say, and like it.”
-active enough to have a good sized feed of communities
Personally I don’t think this one matters so long as it federates content elsewhere in a timely manner. Pay close attention to uptime stats on the Fediverse Explorer. Sort by Active Users for best results - and it looks like lemmy.ca is another good option, defederating from Hexbear.net and Lemmygrad.ml.
Pendantically though, you could in theory, bc they may have known drag from one of the many alts that drag uses after previous ones are banned and new ones are made in turn.
This person causes a lot of drama across the Fediverse, much of it intentionally by promoting rather than downplaying the discussions about it.
Do you mean “☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆”? If so, they are very much still active, posting what looks to me at first glance as disinformation. Doesn’t look to be getting many downvotes though I assume it’s because people just block instead.
I don’t know if temporarily muting those accounts was the right call or not - I did not even look at the pictures of the modlog here much less elsewhere - but entirely separately from that I wanted to say thank you for offering your explanation here. Whatever you end up deciding, your willingness to be introspective is already a powerful thing.
Knowing that you survived probably gives you a nice hormonal boost:-).
Survivorship bias: those who live through the encounter have lowered stress.😁
Definitely Reddit’s buildup was smart. The transition to profitability not so much. Although we’ll see.
Man, remember all those who kept arguing against it? I would say “Reddit is dying”, and these new accounts that had never visited my sub before we decided it should go dark suddenly appeared and started talking crap about anyone who criticized Reddit. That should have been a smoking gun alone for people to realize what was going on. But instead, people just said “yup, that’s Reddit for you”. Which extremely unfortunately… they were right, bc that is what it had become by that time.
i.e., spez didn’t kill Reddit by denying the usage of third-party apps - that was merely the final nail in the coffin for many of us, topping off a process that had begun several years earlier.
This sounds familiar, almost as if history could perhaps, maybe, just possibly… repeat itself? Nah! (says spez)
People will follow the content creators indeed. Right now I’m not sure where they went though. The last I looked, it was basically nowhere, though to the extent that it was anything I thought it was X (even if via a temporary Mastodon intermediate). Musk fed Huffman bad info, which the Musk himself was not doing (or rather, the circumstances were entirely opposite - a public company going private rather than one attempting to make the polar opposition transition), and Huffman was dumb enough to fall for it, then Musk rakes in the rewards for his dirty deed.
Nowadays - or perhaps soon - as you said it might be Bluesky. So trading one corporate landlord for another, but it makes sense - the content creators will go wherever their audience is, and then the latter will in turn mindlessly follow the hoarde, but with an enormous delay measured in high number of months to even years. Plus, content creators need revenue to survive, e.g. how many videos is Ian Danskin (of Innuendo Studios) putting out these days? Then again, how many people especially younger ones even watch 20-30 minute long “video essays”, rather than TikTok(-style) short-form clips?
All the rest: yup.
Over time yes, but then again those most likely to leave have already done so. At this point I don’t expect anymore large exoduses from it, but even if there were I’m not so sure that they would come here.
Conservatives would not feel welcomed in the slightest (nor should they, hey-oh!:-), normies would not feel comfortable due to the heavy need to block every damn thing here just to survive it, and especially the people who think they are leftists (as I once naively thought, with zero evidence I should add!:-P who wants to bother actually looking up definitions of terms? especially if everyone around you is a conservative and thus it makes no functional difference) will find themselves most likely to become dogpiled onto by the people most ah… “eager” to look down upon their fellow human (and some as we so recently and unfortunately discussed go so far as to tell others to kill themselves - highly inappropriate language, especially coming from an instance admin).
So even if some were to leave, where would they go? Twitter is dead, having been eaten from the inside by X and cancelled, then necro-birthed into its current undead existence. And Facebook… just… no. Threads then? Maybe in a few years but either way it’s not comfortable and familiar like Reddit is. So even if people left Reddit, I would expect them to go crawling right back into it, maybe just change their subs or some such. Especially when they roll out subscription model to avoid (some of) the ads, though it’s too soon still as they get people used to them slowly but surely… just like a frog in a pot being cooked slowly (except that’s a false story, bc irl the frog actually does have enough sense to jump out!).
Or maybe they’ll simply touch grass, until they can’t stand that anymore?:-) Playing games rather than talking with people can be a real distraction from the grittiness of life - and then there’s Discord servers that so long as you only want a singular specific game, actually do offer a convenient method to discuss such a focused topic.
So “less profitable”, I guess we’ll see. Probably somewhat less, but substantially so? That I dunno.
this comment in one of the cross-postings seems relevant: https://lemmy.world/comment/13157556
And it’s not even one creature or even type of creature. Look up rhizobium.
Tbf, as we learn more about our gut microbiomes, it turns out that humans are that way as well. Maybe that’s why we have the thoughts in our heads vs. the feelings in our guts… (no that’s actually not it at all, except… isn’t it though?).