I insulted sir Gaben, steam and gaben are sacred on Lemmy. I spoke ill and got brigaded, happens to any comments like that. Could do without the blatant insults, surprised the mods allow it, or maybe they just haven’t gotten to it yet.

Funny how month long idle accounts come out as well on those same votes, what does any of it imply?

I never said it was easy?

Why do you keep insisting I’m moving the goal post?

You said it was a walled garden, so it sounded like you weren’t aware that homebrew and modern cartridge releases exist. And are now arguing why those aren’t applicable to your “walled garden” comment.

That’s literally what I’m trying to point out? They all have their own quirks. And yet people bicker it’s funny.

I point out there’s limitations on PC, and get insulted. The circlejerking against Nintendo and for Steam is just wild on this community.

Anyone can release a cartridge though? This part you’re ignoring.

Why move the goalposts? You’re also now suggesting we gatekeep devs? Why is releasing something on pc fine, but wouldn’t be fine if it was “homebrew”? Because it doesn’t fit your bias?

A game release is a game release, or do these limitations only apply to one side unevenly?

Pc is FULL of shovelware, so that shouldn’t be the metric we use? Yeah?

How so? How can it be a walled garden if anyone can develop and release a game cartridge for it?

The games released on carts arent official games, but they’re playable on an unmodified console/system. Where do the goalposts get moved to now? Games are released on something you said wasn’t possible, so which is it?

Any non modern Nintendo console is capable of playing homebrew games, so this isn’t even true.

People have released NES and gameboy games in the last few years. Even on carts.

You said PC gaming is flawed because you can’t play modern games on a Windows 95 PC. Which is insane.

I never claimed that. I said it was a limitation. Which it is. It limits its capability. Limitations are flaws, but that doesn’t make it flawed, it still works. Funny how words can have multiple definitions and you can choose which one to fit your narrative. Having to get a specific system to play the games you want, is cumbersome, it isn’t always easy, or even doable in some situations now.

Quite putting words in peoples mouth, and again with the insulting when someone has a dissenting opinion. You don’t agree with me, that doesn’t mean I’m a sock puppet. Just shows you don’t want to have a civil discourse and go to fallacies.

So yes it’s MORE exclusive in some situations.

In almost all situations.

… you agree the Pc is more limited in almost all situations now? That’s not my claim. I said some.

Right, but it’s not freedom, when it doesn’t run on everything. You need to keep your system updated to play modern games.

With a switch, any game released, you know will play.

So yes it’s MORE exclusive in some situations.

Nobody is claiming that you should run Black Myth Wukong on an old IBM Aptiva except you.

Where? Don’t put words in peoples mouth if you want to have a civil discourse, but of course with this being your post, we know your bias already.

The thing you are arguing for, literally has a list of games it CANT run… and it includes a lot of modern games as well as older, so it can’t even run them… nice non-exclusion eh? It limits on BOTH sides.

able to run anywhere on hardware of your choice i

So if this statement is true, an OS wouldn’t be a limitation.

Of course tech is better, that’s why you can’t play on it anymore with anything modern. Do you seriously need this pointed out?

And lots of old windows 95 programs don’t run on modern hardware, so if you bought something back then, you’re SOL with modern hardware. Limitations everywhere.

Having to buy from a certain store and being able to run anywhere on hardware of your choice is hardly more exclusive than being forced to buy from one vendor and only run on one system.

But you can’t…? It’s locked to OS, and it doesn’t run on ALL hardware. There’s minimum specs, and you can’t play modern games on windows 95.

Why do people ignore the glaring flaws while preaching the few okay ones? And the obvious lies too. The pros that people use, all fall flat when you follow them. You say all hardware, but it’s not, and never has been has it…?

Pc, where games are locked to launchers…? And OS…?

They have their own flaws, so that’s not even a good counterpoint. They are FAR from inclusive, and far more exclusive in a lot of cases. HL3 would likely be a Steam exclusive, to think otherwise is just ignoring reality.

Do you expect rocket scientists to be good at chess?

Intelligence doesn’t mean it’s blanket smart. This is entirely on individual people for this asinine assumption. It’s never been marketed that way, so why in this singular case is the definition suddenly different? The general public understands this isn’t some be all end all. This assumptive attitude that Lemmy has is fucking weird.

No it wasn’t? You’re saying a program what has had features for decades shouldn’t have them… you’re just talking out of your ass.

Other programs fit that niche, this one doesn’t need to be neutered to make it like all the rest. Options exist, stop trying to make everything the fucking same?

Notepad has always been a word editor, and your only point was it’s not… which is just plain false.

What? I’m not defending windows, I’m defending a program with features you can change on and off to customize it to your preference, and it defaulting to what most users need.

If you can’t get a word program working, the fuck you think someone’s gonna do with Linux? Lmfao, you people are getting wild, and this shits getting old. You’re turning people away with this echo chamber bullshit.

The fact someone upvoted this fucking garbage is concerning as fuck about this community.

Go bloviate about Linux where people want it, you’re ruining discussions you troll.

They have a library you can edit, they’re meant for the masses, and you can obviously customize it to your exact preferences.

Rehaul? This stuff has been part of the program for decades…

A text editor should have basic functions, if you just want a text editor, do it in command prompt or a web link entry.

It’s never supposed to have been a plain text editor, where did you get this asinine idea from?

And that’s an issue, it prevents all productive discussion on a topic. You’re not going to get more users when it’s known echo chambers.

Should be treated as trolling when it’s used to derail topics, which is what it is.

Having QoL features that 95% of people need and use is considered “not working” now? A larger percentage of people would say a text program without a spellcheck or auto correct would be broken.

This Linux circle jerking on Lemmy has gotten beyond exhausting. Options exist for everyone’s preference, it’s not broken because it’s defaulted on and you’re too stupid/ignorant to change a setting.