Democrats waiting for that other shoe:

Trust me as an anarchist

You, are not, however much you might choose to identify as, an anarchist.

You are a statist. You are a liberal. We don’t need your self reporting.

You aren’t just defending the rot: you are the rot. And calling me dishonest when you’ve been in a state of perpetual gaslight for litterally years?

Fucking rich dude.

Litterally all I have done is that advocate that Democrats not use strategies shown to lose elections. Your brain interprets that as advocating against Democrats, and I’m sorry that I can’t take a time machine back to your 10th grade home home room teacher that Eldritch the apologist needs to work on their reading comprehension skills. Show me once, where I advocated for people to not vote Democrat in the 2024 election.

Your persistent and nefarious approach to politics, your constant efforts to silence important accurate and relevant criticism of Democrats, advocacy that is trying to get them to do better: Your the fucking problem with the Democrats.

Shielding Biden from criticism during an election cycle threw the election for Democrats. Shielding Harris from criticism when she didn’t shift policies from Biden lost the election for Democrats.

Gaslighting people to deny the evidence of their eyes and ears will continue to lose Democrats elections.

Democrats can’t win elections using your approach. We ran the experiment. We have the data. You were the fucking problem.

No yours is the dishonest take. You’re defending the rot at the core of the Democratic party, when it’s that very rot that prevents them from an easy path to victory in elections, and speeds our progress towards fascism.

MLK was right when he said that the true enemy of progress in this world were those who would ask us to suffer an unjust peace instead of accepting the righteous tension required to bring about change.

We’re here because we were told, by people like you, that we needed to accept less from Democrats because the alternative was worse. And we listened, for decades. And as a result both Democrats and their alternative both got worse, to the point that The Democratic party is at its lowest favor ability in almost a hundred years.

So miss me with your anemic, shown to be losing, approach to politics

Because BNMW amirite?

Protesting also prepares communities to escalate resistance when necessary

The idea being promoted here is that Americans can sit on the sidelines.

In-fact, if you look at recent history, the ONLY things that have stopped authoritarians is mass protest.

Photoshop wars?

There were many good-hearted feuds. SA versus Fark, newgrounds, photoshop wars… It was very tribal.

Also craigslist was a place people would just hangout.

you havent ‘done’ anything here other than jerk yourself off.

You are delusional if you think you “won” anything.

The only thing you did was demonstrate that you are a vapid waste of time. You being in a self sucking circle jerk with yourself isn’t philosophy.

You don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to philosophy of science and are a waste of everyone’s time, including your own.

Im not being anti intellectual. I simply have no patience for frauds masquerading their metaphysics as philosophy.

In the end you can’t argue the point on its merits and are just engaging in sophistry. So we’ll come back to the first: you don’t actually know what the periodic table of the elements is. You should stop pretending you have a point if you can’t make make it.

If you don’t understand the difference between metaphysics and philosophy, its probably best you did neither.

Neither of the two constructions you listed would result in a periodic table. You don’t know this because you don’t actually know what a periodic table is. Try again.

To help you along, please explain to me: why the elements in the periodic table are ordered as they are? Or more readily, what determines the ordering of the periodic table? I’ll give you two huge hints, and a name to help you. Search the name Mendeleev, and orbital and proton.

Keep in mind, this argument I had was several proxy-arguments downstream of whether or not transwomen are women. So, be aware of what waters you’re treading into.

So your telling me that I need to be cautious of you derailing the conversation away from it’s original premise?

Isn’t the rejection of post-modernism like a very Jordan-Peterson–like thing to do?

And there we are.

No it’s a very Noam Chomskey thing to do. Jordon Peterson, like most fascists, draws largely on the principles of post-modernists. For all intents and purposes, he is one, in that he relies on the idea that truth and reality are relative to justify his arguments. I agree with Chomskey in his critiques of both post modernism and fascism, especially in their arbitrary use of language and sophistry to disguise the hollowness of their arguments.

That being said, i’ll be keeping you to the premise and the periodic table for this discussion. It need not go further.

If the ordering of the periodic table were arbitrary, it couldn’t be a periodic table. It is only a periodic table by this very reason. When ordering by orbital and atomic weight, Mendeleev not only came up with a diagram that effectively predicted all of the observable properties of the elements, but also predicted elements which were not yet known to human kind.

And therein lay the difference.

Imagine a person is coming up with a dictionary for English. And in a dream they came up with some alternative ordering. And in that alternative ordering, suddenly, they not only had a dictionary for English, but also Farsi, and Cantonese. Every language became interpretable through this reordering. In fact, the ordering even predicted languages that were not yet known to the person who developed the order. But the order stated that they should be there, or at least be possible. And when looked for in those places the languages were found. The ordering even gives the recipe for languages that don’t exist.

This is the difference.

Dude I understand what you think you are saying and you are quite simply wrong. You don’t understand what the periodic table is if you think it could be constructed in some other way or that it’s organization is arbitrary or subjective.

You are also wrong in the basic philosophy of it.

No wonder you got the piss taken out of your in that other place.

yeah. you don’t understand the periodic table. this is the same cliff that both post-modernists and fascists have pushed themselves off of.

You are mistaking relativity for subjectivity and the two things are not equal. Human experience is not the arbiter of truth, and you couldn’t have picked a possibly worse example than the periodic table. To put a finer point on it: No. There aren’t other ways to construct the periodic table. Its construction has nothing to do with human perception.

You should’ve spend the time to go read about it before you use it as an example.

I mean that’s a pretty big difference right?

Like, the periodic tables mapping isn’t arbitrary or alternate.

Like you can’t actually map the periodic a different way and it’s in a sense “self evident” in a way arbitrary mappings aren’t.

The periodic table itself is a kind of proof of quantum theory, or at least, strong supporting evidence. While it can be displayed differently, actually couldn’t be arranged differently and the things we know about physics hold true.

Don’t just arm yourself.

Begin to collect information. Take mental notes on suspicious vehicles. Of a certain kind. Begin regular meetings with birds of a feather. Keep connecting with like minded people. Develop, even a limited understanding, of opsec and infosec. Learn a bit of GIS. Get onto a secure messaging system.

Parrots can be uhh. Hard to get back when they get out.

Some neighbor had a parrot get out a few weeks ago. Parrots name was Rascal. So Rascal set up shop in the Mango tree next to my house. Which was. Then his owner, an older lady, she finally found him, and stood outside of my house all day for like, 3 fucking days yelling “RASCAL!! You get down from there Rascal!!”. Like 8AM to 6PM practically, the lady just yelling “RASCAL!! RASCAL YOU GET DOWN FROM THERE!!”

And Rascal just stayed up there, kinda chuckling to themselves.

Eventually they were able to coax Rascal home I suppose. But man. That owner was super annoying.

Your literal response is why I think you have no conception of what works in terms of politics. Your framework was WRONG. It didn’t predict things. The people you rely on for their “popular wisdon”: They GOT IT WRONG!!

If you keep just reusing the same mental frameworks when they don’t predict future states of the world, NO ONE, should listen to you. If your mind doesn’t agree with the evidence, you need to change your mind dude.

Its self evident dude. People defending Biden staying in the race were fucking idiots. They’ve been demonstrated to be wrong. Horribly wrong. Handing the country to fascism wrong. The people saying that Biden needed to step down were right.

Listen to the people who got it right. Use their frameworks for evaluating reality.

IF you continue using the same broken/ wrong frame work for thinking these things through, you are just repeating their same idiotic approach.