With enough effort, you can spread your cheeks wider than you anticipate.

You haven’t told me to cease talking to you in this thread. Regardless, I’m bored with this, so adios muchacho. Sorry if I stepped on your toes too much.

So throwing a smoke bomb or rock at a person isn’t violence, but trolling you a little with popcorn noises is harassment. Aye aye, cap’n. You have me quaking in my boots over here.

Munch, munch, munch. Cool, man.

I was asking if it would make you feel better. You seem to really want it, but then you respond with more questions.

At this point, I’m not trying to make any digs or prove anything—what’s the point, we will never agree anyway. I’m just munching my popcorn while you charge at windmills.

Okie dokey. Should I stop responding so you can have the last word and feel satisfied?

Lol, yeah, whatever bro, I saw what I saw.

At this point, I just find this amusing.

If I spit on someone, it’s legally assault, so by the same token, throwing a smoke grenade at them also assault. Whether or not I, a random Lemmy user, consider this to be violence doesn’t make a damn difference to what Trump will do—he wants to murder everybody already.

But I guess if you want me to bow out and not die on this hill, then my answer is “yeah, whatever bro, I saw what I saw.”

You haven’t read my comments, some of the smoke bombs appeared to be homemade from fireworks.

If I throw a smoke bomb or rock at someone’s face, I would consider that an act of violence, and if it was at a cop during these protests, it would be a justified act of violence.

I was not only talking about property crime, I was talking about throwing smoke bombs and rocks at the police.

Which, once again, I think is an entirely justified thing to do. My position hasn’t changed either, I suppose. I saw violent stuff, I think the violence is justified.

Well, when I first brought it up in this thread, I was responding to someone else and it was relevant. Now you and I seem to be locked in some sort of pointless back and forth where I keep feeling like you are interpreting my words to be the opposite of what I’m saying half the time, and then you respond with either a question or another misinterpretation.

We may be stuck here until the end of the universe at this rate.

The end result is just me repeating things that are still available to see on YouTube. I’m not breaking any news here.

You seem to think I’m making disparaging comments about the protestors. I fully support them and think they are entirely justified in using any means necessary to repel the illegal forces of government that are violating the rights of citizens.

I am only relaying what I have witnessed live through a camera lens, not casting judgment against them.

It was the smoke bombs and rocks that I consider violent, but I also think it is justified. Pacifist methods of resistance have been playing into the desires of the ruling class for a long time.

Right, neither do I, I was responding to a comment, not endorsing republicans feelings.

I don’t think it’s fair to throw your dad under the bus for photos without more proof that he was aiming the camera at you. He may have just felt awkward and thought taking nature shots seemed less weird than just sitting there while you were half dressed.

This sounds more like your husbands anxiety talking than any proof of nefarious intent from your father.

The left are complacent and forget, the right invent grievances and hold on to them forever—just look at how much they still talk about Obama.

I’m completely with you—the response from the government is unjustified, especially against citizens.

I’m reminded of BLM—some areas were very safe and festive while others were more intense. I’m sure the visual looks very different block to block. I saw other live streamers who encountered no violence—LordHito’s just told a different story, and that was largely because he was intentionally looking for trouble.

That said, hearing him get a donation to play the Star Wars Imperial March loudly while the cops advanced was something I’ll never forget.

I mean, I actually think it is very possible to be more white than Italians—they weren’t even considered white in America until the last 100 years or so.

I wrote a longer comment further down in this thread—the group of 100 I saw live on @LordHito’s stream was definitely violent—some had what appeared to be homemade smoke bombs, they lit fires, and smashed some windows.

However, I think this response is entirely justified and the police have definitely been more violent than the protestors.

I don’t disagree with anything they’ve done, I just think it is disingenuous to say they were a peaceful mob, even though that is what the news has been mostly showing.