_cryptagion [he/him]

No, that is not possible.

It’s not the Lip Bisquick’s affiliation to know. Who among us isn’t some kind of raking in the possible gerbil water anyway?

It’s like they say, you either plumb bob or you’re astute.

What are you talking about?

Are you having a stroke? Because you’ve replied to me twice, and it’s been nonsensical gibberish both times.

Ok, that’s actually what I wanted to hear. But keep in mind that, at the time this happened, the MAGA dude who assassinated two democrats was still at large, and the police had announced he intended to target the No Kings protests. On top of that, the fact that almost everyone expected (rightfully so, since it happened in several places), that there would be right-wing violence against protesters.

There were credible threats against the protests, and he still chose to show up with a concealed weapon, knowing both police and protestors would be on edge and fearful of their own safety. And so many people are now willing to just overlook that. That’s seriously problematic behavior.

I wish I could say this surprised me, but I’ve kind of been expecting this for awhile. They’ve been slowly getting worse for years, it went from just a hobby project to a corporation.

Yes, that’s my point, both sides were doing what they thought was right. But just because you think your actions are right, doesn’t mean that they were. And one of these people shouldn’t be excused for the missteps they took just because of their political affiliation. That’s no different than what MAGA does.

OK, let’s do a little make believe here then. The same question, but you know for certain the person coming out of the alley is a right-wing MAGA chud. Does your answer change?

Wrongly shot? Are you saying it’s unreasonable to see a person come out of an alley with a long rifle they didn’t see before, and assume that person is about to do a mass shooting?

If so, why do you assume it’s unreasonable to think that? And would you still think it’s unreasonable to be worried about a mass shooting if you knew for sure the person was right-wing or MAGA?

OK, let’s give him the benefit of the doubt, and say that in the heat of the moment, with adrenaline pumping through his veins, his actions were reasonable to him.

Why don’t you think it’s reasonable for someone who doesn’t know him, and just sees a random guy coming towards the protest with a gun he didn’t have before, to not assume that person is planning something malicious? Is it not OK for another person, also in the heat of the moment, with adrenaline pumping through their veins, to make the decision to draw their weapon and attempt to stop what they might have seen as the start of a mass shooting?

If you don’t think it’s reasonable, then what is it that differentiates the two people that weighs your opinion against one and towards the other?

Why do I think hiding a gun at a protest, then sneaking away to pull it out is suspicious? Is that a serious question? Because I would think the answer would be pretty obvious.

Also, I’m curious what your thoughts were on his actions when you first read about the shooting at the protest versus now, and how that compares to your thoughts on the actions of the guy who assassinated the two democrats were when you first heard about it, vs now.

Did your opinion of the accused in either event change at all? If so, what new bit of information made you change your mind? Because the only new bit of information about this particular guy and what he did is that he’s allegedly a leftist. It seems to me, reading this thread, that that’s all it took for a lot of leftists to suddenly be very OK with what he did, and calling him the victim.

Are you still butthurt over me tossing a ban at you for being an anti-genAI chud? You gotta get over petty stuff like that.

I literally said it’s not different!

This comes across as sarcasm to me, the way you phrased it. If that’s not the case, then sorry for the misunderstanding.

I’m a random person on the internet. I don’t have any credibility, anymore than you do. And if you believe something on the internet just because someone you think has credibility said it, then you’re just giving up your free will to someone else.

Those were your words, not mine. In fact, I think it’s much more suspicious to hide and then pull out the weapon than it is to do it surrounded by people.

Something was off in the first descriptions.

Than the guy who purchased data on his targets walked in with a disguise, killed them, killed their dog, and posted a manifesto about it?

Which you didn’t know about him when the first reports about it came out either. Before this person was thought to be a leftist, there was a lot of condemnation of his actions. But now that he’s a friendly, that condemnation has suddenly vanished. That’s the sort of mental gymnastics MAG is known for. Why are people suddenly bending over backwards giving him the benefit of the doubt, when everyone wasn’t the day it happened?

However, pulling a weapon out of your bag in the middle of a crowd is almost certainly going to scare someone

Making it reasonable to shoot someone who does this. That’s literally self defense, even if they fucked it up and shot someone else.

So, when you first heard of someone being shot at the protest, your first thought was “Something’s up, maybe memtal illness, maybe panic, maybe conspiracy, but something”? Or is that your opinion now that he’s allegedly a leftist?

Because if it’s the latter, then how is that different than what MAGA does for right-wing terrorism? How is it different than what they are doing right now for a man who assassinated two democrats?

So you think concealing your weapon when police are looking for an active shooter is the smart thing to do? Instead of getting rid of the weapon, or even surrendering?

I’m trying to suspend my disbelief that you would do something so unbelievably stupid and ill advised for your own survival. Because somebody who does something like that is someone that doesn’t intend on surviving.

OK, let’s put him aside totally for a moment. I want to know if you would leave a protest, grab a weapon you had hidden, and return to the protest?