For one thing, snaps.
More options and configuration flexibility, longer support historically from the community, including security, etc. If youre going to do a huge dist-upgrade, you’re bordering on reinstall territory as is, which is why I mention it.
Ubuntu will be more willing to incorporate newer updates more quickly, Debian will be a more consistently stable upgrade path, avoids unnecessary services from install so less attack vectors and less security update needs from the jump.
If youre still on 20.04, I’d really recommend just going vanilla Debian.
I really dont find the management intensive at all, I mostly don’t think about it tbh. Thats why I caveated on self hosting, if its simple just an app will do. The moment you add in complication (multiple users for example) it starts to make quite a bit of sense. Most of those tasks also have a related consumable (and another task as a result, such as ordering diapers to use my diaper pail example). Even the robovac example goes to consumables, like replacing the filter/brushes/etc. Or cleaning the sheets means laundry detergent, etc.
Unless you mean the grocery portion, which I do while shopping to check needed items off the list and set the stock (simple scan from the phone).
Grocy if we are talking big enough to host.
Then bring it into HA for simple dashboard access (or to clear events triggered by something else, like starting the robo vac, or a button for when the diaper pail bag is taken out, etc)
Which can be solved by an additional server.
Boom, problem solved.
Thats really cool!
Edit: Apparently voyager still had a previous comment stored, so that became a super fucking weird comment
I’d probably say nomacs.
Looks right to me! Certainly better than what I’m watching
This is correct.
You used to have to go by city/metro area only, but now you can do it by search area. That said, you can alter your metro area or search radius at any point.
It is very odd that anyone would place such limits on functionality on an internet-bound platform.
And a federated one at that! Creating silos like this is… Counter intuitive.
I’m having trouble understanding if this person is representative of flohmarkt or not, but either way, I don’t think they understand any of our questions or arguments.
They admin slrpnk.net, no idea of their involvement with flohmarkt.
I think its safe to say they don’t understand or don’t care about any concerns though, agreed.
It is a good design goal to foster decentralisation.
Its a shitty design that fosters silos.
And please stop demeaning yourself as a user. Are you a drug addict or what?
Stop being an asshole. I’m explaining a position and a use case, which is used for good software design.
This is a shit design. Many others have said the same and expressed their concern. You have decided to act like an asshole for no reason while I tried to explain why its a problematic design. You do that from a user perspective.
There is zero reason for you to suddenly behave like a rotten kid who was just told his toy wasn’t made well. Grow the fuck up.
Ok, now you’re just being an asshole rather than understanding why its a design problem.
We are absolutely done with this conversation now. Goodbye.
So what I’m reading is basically:
All the people who would like to use flohmarkt but can’t today can shut up or set up a server.
That is a really shitty answer.
There is no distinction between users and admins.
I’m sorry, but this is an absolute horror show of a sentence.
You can set up your own instance if you feel like there is a demand for it in your city.
Why would I need a whole new instance for that? What benefit is there to locking an instance to a region rather than a listing to a region?
Its not a technical limitation. Its not even a functional limitation for the trade or sale of someone’s stuff.
What happens when that server owner changes their region that they live?
Do you expect each person to stand up their own instance?
How do I, as a user, and lets assume I don’t have the technical ability or the infrastructure necessary to support standing up my own instance, use flohmarkt in the United States?
What technical reason is there for this limitation?
What functional reason is there for this limitation?
Please explain to me how I, as a user in the United States, can use flohmarkt, with the current servers available and online today.
Yes you need an account from the specific Mastodon instance to post on that Mastodon instance.
That was a Lemmy comment, but my mastadon post goes to all mastodon instances, regardless of region. Filtering or subscription is by hashtag or user. I do not get region-locked by my server to make a post, to read a post, to interact with a post.
But anyways, that is besides the point. A classified listing is by design lioation specific. All your argument seems to boil down to is that you are annoyed that you don’t have centralized accounts to log into different classified pages 🤷
No, that is not my complaint.
I, as a user, cannot use this solution. I have no way to use it, as a user, because the server determines region, not the user. I, as a user, have no way to interact with flohmarkt or my local or regional community, for reasons of a design decision that is not relevant in any way to a user or a listing.
I, as a user, can’t use flohmarkt, because the design of it does not allow me to. An arbitrary, unnecessary, forced limitation. Simple as that.
Commercial centralized online classified systems have a massive problem with ads from commercial sellers as a result, yes.
Lets go to the example from earlier - craigslist. They do not do advertisements. Specific types of listings cost money. That is how craigslist makes money.
Do you mean sellers who make listings in many locations? Does flohmarkt have any controls to prevent that? Because from what I can see… no, it doesn’t.
Again, lets return to the actual problem:
How do I, as a user in the United States, join and participate? As a user, not an admin. Right now.
I can’t post on a Mastodon instance with another instance account, only comment on people’s posts. This is the same way Flohmarkt does federation.
Can you create a hashtag for australia with your account on a US server? Can you create a hashtag for France while living in Poland? Can you create a post with a hashtag for Romania while living in Scotland?
I also can’t create an community on Lemmy with an account from another instance.
I can easily create a post for any location without requiring an account for that instance.
not a global social network obviously
So… whats the point in federation?
This is how all of these classified pages have always worked all the way back to when they were still printed in local newspapers or were just a pinboard in the local supermarket.
It is exactly how classifieds in newspapers or a board at a supermarket works, yes!
It is in no way how an online classified system (craigslist, ebay, offerup, etc) works.
Hey, you do you. Good luck with the upgrade.