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  • You first have to be aware that they exist (they are)

    Agreed

    then you have to be aware that a specific phrase is one

    They were informed, yes. Whether they knew before or not isn’t known, but also irrelevant at this point.

    you’d have to verify that the report is one

    Negative. They are aware the phrase is a dogwhistle. The user realizing that or not is no longer relevant. Remove and notify of the reason.

    and then decide what to do about it

    Adhere to rule 1 of their instance.

    Moderation does not have to be instant.

    When the admin is on, available, responds, then stops responding but continues to make comments/posts… Question answered. They decided against moderating.

    I don’t believe anyone said anything about “instant”. What was said was they went unresponsive.

    I agree with you that a comment using that dogwhistle needs to be removed

    It IS a dogwhistle.

    Whether a user realizes that or not is irrelevant to moderation.

    As in, was the delay at the time of the post reasonable.

    Not remotely relevant at this point.

    1. Admins were aware
    2. Admins understand and agree its a dogwhistle
    3. Admins chose not to address and stopped communicating while continuing to do other things on the instance.

    Not “We’re figuring it out”, just… Radio silence.

    No, sorry, not relevant at all.

    I believe that they were still well within the range of an acceptable time frame for a policy decision on an unfamiliar dogwhistle.

    Not without saying as much. And that has nothing to do with their reasoning - they agree its a dog whistle.


  • I’m not sure there is any nuance there.

    Rule 1 for feddit.uk is explicitly against transphobia. The comment was transphobic and against the rules and should have been removed.

    The UK Supreme Court ruling is, as you said, blatantly transphobic.

    So they have two options:

    • Adhere to their own rules
    • Drop rule #1 and be OK with transphobic comments.

    Regardless of the excuse (and I will not call it “reason”, because it is just an excuse at best IMO) the only option for blahaj would be to defederate. Feddit.uk has, in their lack of moderation of transphobic comments, chosen option 2.

    At present, feddit.uk is totally cool with transphobia.


  • It would require that admin to explain their decision going against established policy

    The first rule:

    No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia

    It would be entirely under that first rule to remove it. There is nothing to explain other than “Rule 1”.

    So I will firmly disagree. This was not only a communication problem, but a complete lack of moderation by their own rules. There is no way to allow the comment without them changing the rule.

    Leaving that comment up is and was implicit support for the comment by saying it was not against the rules.