El Barto

Oracle??!!

By the way, Mullvad rocks!

I completely understand your position and yes, organizations blocking VPN traffic is some major bullshit.

Like apps that ask for your location when they can perfectly function without it. Don’t provide me with a “Never ask me again” checkbox? Fine, I’ll play this game every time. Stop working because now you demand location? A stupid game app? Uninstalled.

Specifically blacklisting a group of users because of the technology they use is, by definition, “targeting”, right? I mean, if not, what qualifies as “targeting” for you?

You may be right. I guess it’s a matter of semantics. But the way you described it sounded more nefarious. “I’ll target this group of VPN users because fuck them, I hope they all die in a tsunami!!!” when it’s more like “ugh, another VPN bot. The 9th this hour and I’m hungry. You know what - I’ll just block VPN altogether and go fix me a sandwich.” Maybe that’s just my perception.

But anyway - it’s Joe Blogger’s machine, at his home, for him to do whatever he likes. Some rando from the street knocks on the door and says “excuse me, do you mind if I send an e-mail from your computer?” Joe Blogger can perfectly say no, not even an excuse is owed.

You’d have a point if it was a business or a corporation. Some home machine? Out of billions? Why bother?

I guess we’re two pedantic folks. I enjoy these discussions. I sometimes gain some new knowledge out of them.

I surely hope so.

You’re putting words in my mouth. I didn’t say that. Targeting sounds like specifically doing it with an agenda.

What you’re saying the equivalent of being offended that you can’t bring guns inside someone’s private property because they don’t want to, period. “It is not ethical that you forbid me from exercising my constitutional rights of bearing arms in your house. How dare you not allowing me to put my AK-47 in your kitchen counter!”

Nope. I said that if someone doesn’t want to deal with VPN users because it’s more hassle than worth (e.g. bots), then so be it. Joe Blogger may get 20 visitors a month instead of 24. Oh the horror!

I am a huge advocate of privacy laws. But if Joe Blogger doesn’t allow me in his personal website, eh. I might try archive.org.

You chose to ignore OP’s point.

let’s stop pretending the law actually matters for the people in power.

Doesn’t Cloudflare cost money for DDoS protection?

You had me until the “ethically sound position” part.

You’re saying that Joe Blogger is acting unethically because he doesn’t allow VPN users to visit his site. C’mon, brother.

No harm done, brother. Infighting is precisely what they want us to do. Sorry I reached the way I reacted too.

But anyway, the whole situation sucks, and I’m very aware of that. I decided not to give that orange asshole any more attention than the strictly necessary. And in turn I’ll focus my energy on signaling strength to those who are too sad and scared for the future.

I just wished you stopped name-calling me since it makes you sound like a edgelord teen.

You’re entitled to your opinion. I understand that you’re angry. So am I. But I can’t do shit about what’s about to happen. So I prefer to remain hopeful and do whatever I can to continue supporting the communities that will be affected by what the majority of Americans legitimately decided in democracy.

Fuck. May Baphomet have mercy on our souls.

Trump will sign the bills the republicans bring him

Well shit!

Just shut the fuck up, man. Do you think I’m happy about all this? My rights have been eroded whether I like it or not. I’m just hoping that they are not eroded further. I don’t understand your stupid comment.

Unless I misunderstood you and you’re in fact a republican threatening me, in which case, doubly go fuck yourself.

not while the Rs control everything

Uh, Bernie was blocked by the democrats, not the republicans.

He’s to pure

He’s too* pure

Eh… I don’t know, man. I also see a darker future, but if Trump didn’t do anything like this in 2016, it won’t happen in 2024. He’s older, he’ll just want to play golf.

Edit: Downvoted. I just hope that the repubs get almost nothing of value done like they did in 2016-2020. Sucks that the abortion rights were taken away, sure. But they couldn’t repeal Obamacare or build their precious wall, all because they’re a bunch of incompetents. I hope it’s the same case this time around. I’m not too optimistic, but I can only hope.

I’m convinced that Biden would have won.

I personally believe that this is not Biden’s or Kamala’s fault. It’s the old-school Democrat establishment’s fault. They did Bernie dirty in 2016. And then they did the same to Biden in these elections. Lichtman predicted a Biden win, bad debate performance and all, and the dems fucked it up.

To be transparent, I still believed Lichtman when he said Harris would win. I will never believe in his stuff again, unless he adds new keys or something.

It reads like an Onion article. Bravo!

Go to bed, @tortina_original. You’re drunk.