“Ok, so we lied about every single aspect of this case, and repeated those lies continuously for 2 months to keep an innocent man in a foreign torture prison… but we have evidence now that he gave some people a ride in his car! A RIDE in his CAR! Can you believe that?? No, seriously, please believe that. He’s a bad guy, you guys. Honest!*”
The timing sucked, you’re right about that. But they weren’t wrong to pressure Biden to not run again. Biden had zero business running again. The man was 81 years old, and very much in cognitive decline. The only reason he got as far as he did in the process was because of wishful thinking on everybody’s part. At that point, it was a bit of a Sophie’s choice; they could either throw their weight behind him, hoping beyond hope that he could just nudge that campaign over the finish line, or they could convince him to step aside in favor of someone eminently better fit for it, which meant throwing away the results of the primary.
Convincing him to step down was the right choice. I don’t know if you’re just misremembering things or what, but the polling was not good for Biden around that point. Trump looked like a shoe-in. While he wasn’t guaranteed to lose, he definitely had a worse chance of winning than Harris did. Here’s the national polling chart from that time; Biden dropped out July 21st. Do you see how the blue line went up and the red line went down after that?
Trump won, and that really fucking sucks. But saying that the Democrats fucked up and that Biden would have won is just pure fantasy. I get it; I don’t want this piece of shit to be president either, and it makes me furious every day that he is. In situations like this, it’s natural to want to throw some blame around. But blaming the Democrats for making the right choice just ain’t it.
Kind of hilarious that she left the party because they convinced Biden to not run. That was the one fucking thing Democrats did right. It just took them a long time to get past his hubris.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: YEEEEESSSSSSSSSS.
Your blind support for people who don’t represent their constituents is why no one voted for your team dumbass.
I did not think it was possible to miss the mark by this wide of a margin. Democrats are not my “team”, you fucking cretin. They are the non-fascist party. When you have a fascist running against a non-fascist, you pick the non-fascist. How is this a difficult concept for you to grasp?
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The margin between them narrows every election cycle
Uh huh. And that’s why it’s imperative that we do everything we can to primary these fucks and get them out of office. But none of that fucking matters during a general election, which is what this chucklefuck failed to vote in. In the general election, you are presented with limited options, and you vote for the option that is better for most people EVERY FUCKING TIME. Doing otherwise puts you anywhere on the spectrum from a bad citizen to a complete monster.
Did you expect that it would work forever?
Do you think that I am in charge of the Democratic party? What the fuck are you blaming me for? You voted for Harris, too, you fucking nitwit.
Is your problem that you think there are too many living Palestinians or something?
What? I get that you’re trying to paint me as pro-genocide because I voted for Harris (which is something that you did too, as you just pointed out, you genocide loving fuck), but that only makes sense if Harris would be worse than Trump in this area, and that’s a really hard fucking sell. So unless you’re just spewing nonsense because you like the way the letters look when you type them out, what the fuck are you actually trying to say?
I’m really trying to make sense of what you wrote, but you’re sort of doing my head in with your twisted logic.
Are you saying that because Harris didn’t pander to this idiot specifically that there is no reason he should vote for her? Because that’s really fucking stupid. You vote for Harris because she’s not fucking Donald Trump. Just like you vote for ANYBODY other than Adolf Hitler.
Is the problem just that you don’t think Trump is that bad, or something? Like… haven’t you read the news once in the last 8 years?
Do you remember in the first Trump administration when he separated thousands of children from their parents, and then just kinda… lost them? One of the things that the Biden administration did was track down several hundred of those kids and families and reunite them. If Trump hadn’t have instigated that policy in the first place, those families would not have been separated and Biden wouldn’t have had to dedicate significantly more time to cleaning up the mess than Trump did in making it.
I get it. You hate the rightward drift that’s been encapsulating the Democratic party since Eisenhower. I agree with you. But you know what? They’re way fucking better than the alternative, and the alternative is what you decided you were ok with when you didn’t vote. So your bullshit justifications are falling on deaf ears here, because I don’t want to hear why you think it’s ok giving the reins to this fucking madman in the hopes that at some point in time, the lives he ruined will be made whole.
You know what’s way better than rectifying a mess? Not making a mess in the first fucking place. Or are you going to try to convince me that Harris would also be building concentration camps and detaining American citizens, or planning out the condos America’s going to build in the Gaza Strip once Israel finishes leveling it?
“Kamala decided to do a rally in Wyoming alongside Liz Cheney so I decided that I would be ok with America electing a traitorous monster for a second time” is not exactly the flex you think it is, hombre.
I’m glad that you’re able to absolve yourself of the role you chose to play in electing a guy who’s building fucking concentration camps. See, me? I don’t think I’d be able to live with myself after that. But then I am not a complete fucking piece of shit.
Well thanks for contributing to the problem. Really happy you decided that you couldn’t be fucked to vote against a dictator. Appreciate you.
I give far less of a shit about how much the program will cost than I do about the fact that we’re building and populating fucking concentration camps.
And they sure as fuck aren’t going to vote in the 2026 Midterms either, cupcake.
I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you’re going to have more success trying to be nice to traitors in the hopes that they will no longer be traitors than in convincing someone that not voting against a person who actively hates America is a bad thing. I mean, you’re going to have to really put your foot into this one, because that whole premise sounds stupid as fuck.
No, I’m going to spend 2025 focusing on you idiot Democrats
Great. Continue beating that drum, you fucking moron. See how that works out for you. I accept your vote, but you will never get my gratitude, you Vichy motherfucker.
Edit: Oops - I’m sorry. According to your idiotic theory, my being mean to you means that you’re going to vote for a fascist. Please, Mr. Rational Guy, sir, please don’t vote for Trump in 2028 (assuming we still have elections by then) - I promise I’ll be really really nice to you! Fucking idiot.
See sweetheart
Ok, first of all, fuck you, you condescending fuck.
in order to win elections, you need to obtain more votes than the other team.
Hey dipshit - you do realize that 10s of millions of people just straight up didn’t vote in the last election, right? And that the number of Trump voters has been fairly constant since 2016?
Stop wasting your breath trying to coddle these fucking traitors. Focus instead on the people who didn’t give enough of a shit to vote against them. Maybe if we all loudly condemn the traitors and draw lines in the sand, we can shake a few million apathetic idiots loose in the process. Princess sugar tits.
What’s infuriating to me is that people like you like to constantly shift the responsibility for these shitheads’ behavior onto the people who call them shitheads for being shitheads. What, am I supposed to flatter the traitors in the hopes that they’ll choose to not be traitors anymore? Should I buy a sheet of gold stickers to hand out? Fuck that and fuck you for sticking up for them. They are adults and 100% responsible for their own actions.
Please enlighten me as to which cause I am lost from. I would like to know what noble calling I am failing to meet.
I have no idea how you managed to read OP’s post and fuck up the comprehension of it so badly, especially considering that OP put their point in the first fucking paragraph and even bolded it for you:
How does this ^ have anything whatsoever to do with your off-the-wall crazy-ass interpretation?