fantoozie

You’re wrong about the founders not understanding identity politics; I recommend you read through George Washington’s farewell address. It’s is lengthy, for sure, but it explicitly warns Americans about the danger of unchecked fealty to a political party and the promulgation of a politics of identity versus national interest and unity.

The founders knew our democracy would be repeatedly tested by enemies foreign and domestic (almost like they included that in the Constitution for a reason) they simply hoped we would be educated enough to see when we’re being manipulated, and faithful enough to the country’s ideals to defend it. We’ll see if they’re right.

I hope you’re practicing rolling on your belly and wagging your tail for fascists.

What a useless, whiny attitude to have.

Oh no, they definitely hate themselves too.

Sounds like a lot of unnecessarily obtuse wording to just say “I made a shit joke”.

Who don’t they hate?

I’d also add that for young men specifically, there is an onslaught of propaganda manipulating their sexual frustration and insecurities into hatred towards women. Trump offered these men a symbolic victory against a world in which they feel they will never succeed financially or sexually. Young men from immigrant families are particularly susceptible to this, since their families are generally more socially conservative and adhere to stricter gender stereotypes.

Race isn’t real big guy; you shouldnt apologize for being born into a particular caste of an artificial construct.

It’s actually more to do with hating women than wanting to be white.

How so?

Im not sure what you’re talking about. I’m simply calling attention to the fact that Trump is a manifestation of a much more fundamental dissonance between Americans and the rest of the world, particularly the Global South, and even if this country turned around right now the trajectory towards technocratic authoritarianism has been leaning towards this since 9/11. The US is a sick, twisted place; that’s why Trump’s your president.

Great comment. I think they can be equally intelligent in recognizing the consequences of their actions while also being so short-sighted and obsessed with control and immediate financial and political gain that they don’t recognize how much harm theyre causing for all parties.

But what will you do when the rest of the world’s working poor turns around and suddenly you’re “them”

No it’s not. A well off doctor in the U.S. has more disposable income and assets than ~97% of the worlds population, and is able to sustain their resulting material wealth as a function of economic labor exploitation of “developing” countries

Y’all are just mad because Trump is kicking you down to hang with the rest of us poors.

Well I suppose the future will prove one of us wrong

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Good luck with life.

Is that really your argument? If farms just increased their labor costs by 300-500%, we could all just be happily employed farmhands?

I won’t split hairs about what enthusiasm really looks like, but I’ll respond to your last point: I agree, but it is naive and dangerous to argue that the United States has even come close to acknowledging its sins. Until then, you all will bear the full weight of those sins, like it or not.

Lol fuck America depending on day laborers to subsidize low grocery prices. Time for all you citizens to get off your ass and head to the fields

Actually it’s pretty clear a significant portion of the American population is enthusiastic about this. I don’t know what is provocative about pointing out that Americans are renowned for their racism, transphobia, and misogyny. This country had literal slaves for 200 years, has only let women vote for less than 100 years, and still pretends the Civil War was about states rights. Open your eyes: this IS what America wants, and who America has decided to become.