That’s suprising, I always thought it would be similar to ö in Finnish where I’m from. And swedish ö as in öl and danish ø as in smørrebrød.

Where did you get that the English pronunciation had ø-sound?

That’s a better analogy, no phones involved

I remember the kids participating more like in group brainwashing sessions, not being in isolation with some device in hand

It has some great sociological observations but the parts about family and births is still ways away so I wouldn’t count it in here.

Please do elaborate

Thank you for your insight. I hadn’t realized how obtaining an id could be an issue. We just use our driver’s licence (issued by the police) which most of us have already at hand. Wish you and the family all the best.

Yeah I don’t get it either. Every election I voted in I’ve had to have id. It’s been like this for a long time and it hasn’t shifted so that we need proof of ethnicity or some other bs people here are suggesting will happen next.