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ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org to sdfpubnix@lemmy.sdf.org ·
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Outgoing federation is broken. Again... [not a SDF issue, but lemmy.world apparently]

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Outgoing federation is broken. Again... [not a SDF issue, but lemmy.world apparently]

ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org to sdfpubnix@lemmy.sdf.org ·
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  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    10 months ago

    And once again it’s lemmy.world.

    But this: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/23650562
    did get here: https://lemmy.world/post/20799392

    Federation with lemmy.world seems luck-based at this point.

    • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      10 months ago

      Interesting…

      I didn’t consider that it might be a lemmy.world problem since usually it’s a SDF-only issue.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        10 months ago

        It may or may not. For example this post is visible on lemmy.world.

        It’s just mysterious.

        • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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          10 months ago

          But you were right it seems: I cross-posted the same post on !3dprinting@lemmy.ml and it made it just fine.

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      Federation with lemmy.world seems luck-based at this point.

      I mean, it seems pretty obvious the problem is .world let all these tiny instances that can’t even get 500 user a month federate…

      But .world now has to serve them up every post from the other tiny instances whose user post to .world because no one is on their home instance.

      I highly recommend any such tiny instances mutually defederate from .world, because the tiny instances are what’s causing the problem.

      Unfortunately they don’t want to do that because they’ll be cut off from the majority of Lemmy, instead they usually want to bitch and complain and demand .world treats them as the special unique people they truly are.

      It’s like back in the day when people would make huge posts about leaving social media on social media and the never leave…

      If you want to go, just go.

      Most people will never even notice

      Edit:

      To be clear, what causes delays and issues with federations and .world is the sheer amount of instances they federate with.

      The two options to fix it is upgrading infrastructure which costs money, or pruning federation until infrastructure has been scaled up.

      There’s just nothing else that can be done.

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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        10 months ago

        Or move communities and users from LW to other instances to reduce the load on LW?

        • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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          10 months ago

          Would be helpful but I can’t see LW wanting to do that sadly. Hurts their dream to be next Reddit

          • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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            10 months ago

            There are a few very dedicated LW accounts who keep posting to LW communities while alternatives are more active

            I just don’t get it

            • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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              10 months ago

              User base. Because the users are there because devs were nice and initially directed people there :(

              • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.org
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                10 months ago

                But users are everywhere. Any Lemmy user can access !android@lemdro.id, why keep posting to !android@lemmy.world

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                  10 months ago

                  Access yes. Actually see it, debatable

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          Yeah, lemmy.world has way too many communities and users for the good of Lemmy’s health, really.

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        I wonder if some form of p2p would be possible, more like syncthing, than torrent, to allow the sheer numbers to create a swarm, to fix the issue rather than cause it. I’m not a dev in any form, so I’m sure smarter minds have considered it and have dismissed it or are working on it,

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          10 months ago

          Coincidence as you are an aussie.zone user: https://feddit.org/post/3524876

          Post from your instance (missing comments as nobody is subscribed): https://aussie.zone/post/14298464?scrollToComments=true

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            Oh, I’m well aware of the delays. Its just Lemmy world, from what I can gather.

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              10 months ago

              Yes, only LW indeed

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      • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Or world just terrible at their setup.

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          Leaning more on that, world does seem to have a terrible setup.

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            I’m sure they’ll fix it all with sublinks, which is coming any day and running Java…

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              10 months ago

              I have higher hopes with Piefed and Mbin nowadays

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