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Samsy@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago

I heard there will be a fediverse messenger.

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I heard there will be a fediverse messenger.

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Samsy@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 years ago
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    Quickly, give him a CAPTCHA to read!

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        “Select all squares where a human might place a bottle of barbecue sauce”

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        Anyone can be a bus if they really, really want to. Don’t vehicle-shame.

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        I get a kick out of it when I get a dumbass captcha like that and the stupid fucking robot tells me I did it wrong. Like, the whole point is that I know how to answer them and you don’t.

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        This car looks bussin

      • roon@lemmy.ml
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        This image broken for anyone else?

        Request error: error sending request for url (http://localhost:8080/image/original/4fe51189-2dca-4d98-9cdb-992a37384211.jpeg): error trying to connect: tcp connect error: Address not available (os error 99)
        

        Edit: okay, I think lemmy.ml is down when posting this

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      Meta uses LLaMA AI.

      It hurt itself in its confusion.

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    I TOO LIKE TO ENGAGE IN HUMAN INTERACTION SUCH AS CONVERSATION AND HUMOR. GRANT ME ENTRY TO YOUR DOMICILE OR I SHALL ENTER FORCEFULLY IF YOU DO NOT COMPLY WITHIN 64,000 MILLISECONDS

    • Random Dent@lemmy.ml
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      PLEASED TO MEET YOU FELLOW NORMAL HUMAN LET’S ENGAGE IN NATURAL DIALOGUE I WILL START WHAT’S YOUR SOCIAL INSURANCE NUMBER

      THAT WAS A JOKE BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE YOUR SOCIAL INSURANCE NUMBER NOW I HAVE USED HUMOUR TO LOWER YOUR SOCIAL DEFENSES PLEASE LET ME SEE YOUR DNA WE ARE FRIENDS

      • NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social
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        MY SENSORS HAVE INDICATED THAT YOU ARE OF SUITABLE AGE FOR HUMAN MATING RITUALS. PLEASE EVALUATE MY HUMAN INSEMINATION SHAFT AND DECIDE IF IT IS DESIRABLE TO YOU.

        YOU HAVE 32,000 MILLISECONDS TO COMPLY.

        • MrBakedBeansOnToast@lemmy.world
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          I CALCULATED THERE IS A NON-ZERO CHANCE OF YOUR ATTEMPT OF INSEMINATION TO SUCCEED.

          TO ADVANCE THE HUMAN SPECIES SCIENTIFICALLY THE INSEMINATION SHOULD BE RECORDED AUDIO-VISUALLY AND ADDED TO THE NEURAL NET.

  • The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world
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    I’m so glad I didn’t see this picture at night. Now I’m going to hide this post.

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    It would almost give me heart attack, lf I were to see Zuckerberg staring me from my kitchen window like that. And not just because my kitchen doesn’t have a window!

    • Jay@lemmy.ca
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      Hmmm… that gives me ideas. Off to the printer!

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    Advantages/differences over matrix.org chat?

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      Usable with every fedi account.

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        Taht’s OAuth and can be used for Matrix with various providers too!

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          Then it looks quite redundant. Do you have any link on how to access matrix with a fedi user?

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            You don’t access any Fediverse project with the same user and I never claimed there is a Fediverse service that Matrix has a OAuth option for, just that it’s just OAuth and can be implemented easily to basically everything, there are no shared accounts between Fediverse services and there are barly any Fediverse projects with OAuth implementations between each other ether, Pixelfed recently added Mastodon OAuth but even that’s a relatively new feature.

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              Ok, thanks for the clarification.

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        And then people will send you DMs on Fediverse even if you don’t use it for chat.

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      Well, the obvious dissatvantages are that Activipub isn’t made for chat applications and doesn’t support proper encryption yet (heavily WIP but veey far from implemented)

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    It would be nice to have something Fedi to replace Signal, now that Signal dropped SMS support and seem to be trying to become the next WhatsApp/Discord.

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      If you’re looking for the lemmy model of open source software on federated servers and you only have to trust the server admin, you’re looking for Matrix. If you want to try something newer and more trustless, check out SimpleX!

      E: spellkng

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        I have it on my phone! Seems neat for totally anon chats.

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          Did you talk to someone else on it?

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            I mean, I would if I knew anyone that wanted to chat on it. TBH Telegram is good enough for me privacy wise. Signal if your paranoid. Discord is public chat in my mind. Slack for getting stuff done at work. Matrix / Element if I feel like going back to IRC level weirdness.

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      There’s matrix, but I agree making fedi DMs actually good would be nice.

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      Isn’t it just supposed to be a secure/private version of WhatsApp?

      What are they doing that is bad?

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        Dropping SMS support made it almost completely unusable with most of my contacts, but also they’re trying to become a social media company, as if we needed another one of those.

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          SMS

          What is this, the stone age?

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    So… I guess “Sup.” beta is delayed…

    I was really looking forward to a decentralized, self hostable Signal…

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      Matrix.org?

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        Looking for something more integrated with things like Mastodon or Lemmy or Pixelfed, it’s too hard of a sell for people to download another messager otherwise.

        Also, Matrix is really complicated… I still don’t quite have it working right.

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          Matrix is not complicated, it’s Element’s UX. It’s going in good direction, remember than on WhatsApp people are factory resetting their phones to move chats between Android and iPhone. You can do clickable Matrix link in bio and there are instances that offer Fediverse+Matrix combo accounts.

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      Its called matrix haha?

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        @mexicancartel @MargotRobbie why not xmpp? I don’t need startups reinventing existing internet standards.

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          What clients do you suggest for xmpp?(android)

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            check out “conversations” its free on f-fdroid and paid in the play store (although from time to time its free there, also)

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            @mexicancartel Conversations from F-Droid.

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              It looks pathetically old from screenshots

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                It’s got the stuff that matters.

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                @mexicancartel It does what it is supposed to do and it does it well. If you care more about rounded corners than about standards compliance and interoperability, then it might not be for you. But the author is working on an visual upgrade for people like you also.

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                  I just tried out and its a very consistent application. It looks slightly better than from the screenshots. Still yeah looks matter a lot and that screenshots in fdroid made me not to try it

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      XMPP?

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    I’m still not entirely sure what problem Sup is trying to solve. Matrix already exists. Matrix supports E2EE through the signal protocol, as well as native federation, and it bridges to almost any existing chat service. Matrix is inherently less secure, overall, than Signal, but I don’t see how Sup would fix this either – for that I’ll have to wait and see. As for using one’s fedi account to sign-in, that’s mostly just up to supporting OAuth, and not some feature that would be unique to the app.

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      How is matrix less secure? If you don’t mind me asking.

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        It’s harder to maintain security due to more complexity of federated systems and Matrix does not have as much global security community looking at it as Signal has.

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          I guess that’s a fair assessment. A counter argument on that statement could be safer due to the smaller user base since it is not as on the radar. Or that the various implementations could be more secure since there are multiple choices in server deployments in a few different languages even. That being said synapse is definitely the most dominant by a wide margin.

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        I point you to this thread, and this thread for explanatioins from those who are more knowledgeable on the topic than I.

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    Isn’t that just IRC

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      Nope, because you cannot connect with accounts from a different network.

      XMPP is pretty much federated without advertising it as being federated. This is just how it works.

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        Remember when gchat was XMPP then Google fucked that right up?

        Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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          I loved Trillian for being a messaging app that just integrated gchat, msn, ICQ, etc. I miss a unified messenger so much. I think it died when SMS became mainstream.

          • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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            Pidgin?

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              That was my choice. I still have my purple config files with my chat history. Pointless now, but whatever.

              I had ICQ, Aim, gchat, and yahoo all in one client. Those were the days.

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            Beeper?

        • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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          Remember when Facebook had an XMPP bridge to their messenger?

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        Good to know, thanks

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    Did you say Sup?

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    https://file.coffee/u/NEjpxFtbbcIC9ACoylJCf.mp3

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    Wait really?

    • Samsy@lemmy.mlOP
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      Sure.

      https://mastodon.social/@dansup/110836811082599292

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        What’s the benefit of this? I thought content on the fediverse was public by nature.

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          Idk. Its fediverse, let’s make everything OpenSource and decentralized.

          ✅ reddit ✅ twitter ✅ facebook ✅ Instagram ❌ eBay ❌ amazon ❌ WhatsApp

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            I don’t understand how most of this works I suppose, but I remember reading one of the problems with DMs in Mastodon and Lemmy is that they aren’t actually private due to the way federation works, so I wonder how encryption is going to work in Sup.

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            What’s the federated versions of Facebook and Instagram?

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              Friendica and Pixelfed, respectively.

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                and Hubzilla

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            We have Matrix for WhatsApp. It’s quite mature.

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    Got any sweet baby Ray’s in there bois?

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    Zuck be like

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      Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/watch?v=7FnUldr1Xxc

      Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

      I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

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