Banned for ā€˜Internet Slapfight’ despite the vast majority of my comments being to debunk Hasbara, and disengaging from a Zionist troll when the attacks went from disinformation to personal

Post:

https://lemmy.world/post/30244778

Luckily none of my comments pertaining to the actual issue at hand got deleted, but how this somehow warrants a ban is completely ridiculous.

I do want to promote some better World News comms:

[email protected]

[email protected] Avoid due to their support of white Nationalist propagandist Tucker Carlson. See https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/19034187

For obvious reasons I won’t be engaging with the lw world news, nor be able to debunk any hasbara there that aims to justify this genocide one way or another

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    I didn’t catch that either, that list of names didn’t include Tucker Carlson when I first subbed. That is unacceptable, white nationalists should not be tolerated

    I’m crossing that community out

    @[email protected] why are allowing Tucker Carlson, an ideological white nationalist, in that community?

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      Reposting removing explicit X hyperlinks:

      Tucker Carlson has called out Ben Shapiro for cheering on the killing of Palestinian civilians, calling it evil, while Piers Morgan defended it (X link: SuppressedNws/status/1885475171667972426)

      Tucker has gotten Matt Walsh to implicitly admit that Israel shouldn’t exist, because it depends on the US for its existence: (X link: abierkhatib/status/1917775533355720801)

      Tucker is a member of the isolationist wing of Republicans trying to prevent war with Iran, and has called out ā€œMossad agents and warmongersā€ for derailing the talks: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/trump-allies-say-mossad-agents-and-warmongers-trying-derail-iran-talks

      Tucker hosted an interview with Thomas Massie where Massie revealed that every Republican Congressperson has an ā€˜AIPAC babysitter’ (X link: HotSpotHotSpot/status/1799169397510311993)

      AIPAC is bipartisan, so I can be bipartisan too. I try to seek out and include conservative voices that are critical of Israel, and amplify the isolationist wing of the Republican party that opposes wars in the Middle East. I especially appreciate Tucker calling the killing of Palestinian civilians ā€œevilā€.

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        Make no mistake, Tucker Carlson is an antisemite and an islamaphobe. He is not anti-israel for any humanitarian reason, he only cynically uses anti-israel talking points to push antisemitic conspiracy theories. He does not care about Palestinians or any other Muslim or arab, he considers them primitives. He should not be platformed in any respect. There is plenty of genuine critisism of Israel that’s not based in antisemitic conspiracy theories, there is no need to promote Tucker Carlson is any respect.

        Carlson called Iraqis ā€œsemiliterate primitive monkeysā€ in 2006 and argued that politicians should be more explicit about calling out ā€œlunatic Muslims who are behaving like animalsā€.

        https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/while-tucker-out-fox-networks-islamophobia-problem-persists

        He went on to say that Afghanistan would never ā€œbe a civilized country because the people aren’t civilized.ā€

        During his time at Fox, Carlson was the leading voice in right-wing media promoting the racist, anti-semitic, ā€œgreat replacementā€ conspiracy theory. Carlson repeatedly warned viewers that Democrats were ā€œimportingā€ new citizens ā€œto replace the disobedient ones.ā€ Carlson once likened the Biden administration’s immigration policy to ā€œeugenicsā€ against white people.

        The Fox host was a staunch opponent of the Black Lives Matter movement, and often invoked racist tropes and stereotypes to justify violence and discrimination against Black Americans. On June 3, 2020, Carlson centered his monologue around a montage of unarmed Black Americans who were killed by police, laying out his reasoning as to why each victim deserved to have been killed.

        https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tucker-carlson-fired-worst-things-he-said-racism-immigrants-1234722751/

        It’s true that Palestinian Christians are suffering, though it’s largely because they are Palestinians rather than because they are Christians. Carlson’s message, however, does less to draw attention to the plight of the Palestinians than to pit Jews against Christians. In trying to excommunicate Carlson, conservatives are pretending that he’s changed — but he’s really the same guy he always has been.

        The antisemitic and otherwise bigoted things he said on Fox were far worse than anything in the Isaac interview and received only a fraction of the internal right-wing condemnation.

        Carlson is exploiting legitimate criticism of Israel to fan the flames of Christian antisemitism, which has become a growing problem on the right even as much public attention recently has focused on the left wing.

        https://www.vox.com/2024/4/16/24131384/tucker-carlson-interview-israel-palestine-munther-isaac

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          He is not anti-israel for any humanitarian reason, he only cynically uses anti-israel talking points to push antisemitic conspiracy theories.

          I disagree. I think he’s sincere when he calls killing children evil, and that’s good. And I thought his interview with Munther Isaac was very important for breaking conservatives out of the ā€œall Arabs are crazy Muslim and want to kill meā€ false belief, even if it did focus on the sufferings of the small minority of Palestinian Christians.

          I don’t agree with everything he’s ever said or will say, he may say things I the future I have serious disagreements with. But I think the genocide in Gaza is the most pressing moral issue of our time, and am willing to build a big tent coalition to stop it and hold Israel responsible. I am also a big admirer of Hezbollah, who are very socially conservative, for what it’s worth.

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            Tucker Carlson fundamentally considers white people superior to non-white people. His grievance is that the fascism is being overseas when the US can instead use those resources to do so against the non-whites within America. Tucker is conservative on social issues because he is a supremacist for the white Christian race. He’s a domestic fascist, enthusiastic about mass deportations in the US.

            This is completely separate from anti-colonialist resistance groups, who’s conservatism is a reaction to colonialism. These groups, while fundamentalist, are not fascist. ISIS would be an example of a fundamentalist and fascist group.

            There is no ally-ship with fascists of any variety

            Carlson is critical of Islam and has hosted guests on his program that criticize Islam.[433][434] He has described the existence of an ā€œIslamic cultā€ and an ā€œIslamic problemā€, describing it as a threat to the United States.[433] He was critical of the Obama administration’s terrorism policy, arguing that it should have considered Islam as a cause of terrorism.

            In 2018, Carlson described the effects of mass immigration on the United States using the terms dirtier, poorer, and more divided[435][436] and said it ā€œhas badly hurt this country’s natural landscapeā€.[437] On another 2018 episode, Carlson criticized multiculturalism in the United States, skeptically asking ā€œhow, precisely, is diversity our strength?ā€ and whether any other institutions benefitted from a lack of commonalities.[438][439] Talking about Hazleton, Pennsylvania, where Hispanics had quickly become a majority of the population, Carlson said it was ā€œmore change than human beings are designed to digestā€.[407] In May 2019 he said, ā€œThe flood of illegal workers into the United States has damaged our communities, ruined our schools, burdened our healthcare system and fractured our national unity.ā€[386] In December 2019, he falsely claimed that immigrants were responsible for making the Potomac River ā€œdirtier and dirtierā€.[440][441]