While a significant portion of the GOP voted for the felon, there is serious mounting evidence that he wasn’t actually elected the second time around.
The key problem seems to be that both the Democratic Party and the American population rather is willing to accept that the climate emergency is real and they contributed a lot to it, rather than their black box computer based voting system has been compromised.
I get downvoted everywhere for this, but repeating the line that the republicans voted this guy in, is inherently voicing acceptance of the election results.
Remember that the 4 years of “the election was stolen” on non stop, was partly designed to make you look like an idiot if you were to say it now.
If it talks like a coup, smells like a coup, looks like a coup and acts like a coup, it probably is.
If you find out a guy who comes to poker night is cheating to win, and gets caught trying to cheat during a game, would you still agree to play with him again?
I refuse to believe that 50% of Americans would say, enthusiastically, yes.
And yet, we had evidence of Trump pressuring governors to “find extra votes”, and also the fake elector scheme, and also the January 6th coup that he watched unfold on live television and did nothing to prevent, and people think that he didn’t cheat in 2024? Am I supposed to believe that people said, yeah that’s our guy? Or it is more likely that he just cheated so well this time that he got away with it?
He should have never been allowed to run again, but useless decorum is what killed any chance at Trump ever seeing justice for his crimes against the American people. No, it would look bad if we banned the known cheater from the poker table, just let him play again and beat him fair and square this time, right?
As cleansing as it would be for the 2024 election to actually have been stolen (how nice, I could believe in the country and my neighbors again!), none of those websites present anything close to reliable evidence. The downballot claims are not compelling.
What’s more, how many people, the absolute minimum, would need to keep a secret - people who tampered with or had knowledge of tampering with voting machines? 50? 20? 10?
The apocryphal Benjamin Franklin quote, “Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead,” is on point here. There’s no way there wouldn’t be direct evidence leaking at some point in the last 10 months if that actually happened.
I’ve read the evidence, and I find it very compelling. The down ballot claims are not the only claims. The Russian tail is the biggest tell.
The amount of people that need to keep a secret is fairly minimal, it’s IT, and the leverage of copy paste or malicious code insertion, not to mention the ability to seriously compartmentalise, is close to infinite.
If you want to share your specific concerns I’d be happy to elaborate more.
While a significant portion of the GOP voted for the felon, there is serious mounting evidence that he wasn’t actually elected the second time around.
The key problem seems to be that both the Democratic Party and the American population rather is willing to accept that the climate emergency is real and they contributed a lot to it, rather than their black box computer based voting system has been compromised.
I get downvoted everywhere for this, but repeating the line that the republicans voted this guy in, is inherently voicing acceptance of the election results.
Remember that the 4 years of “the election was stolen” on non stop, was partly designed to make you look like an idiot if you were to say it now.
If it talks like a coup, smells like a coup, looks like a coup and acts like a coup, it probably is.
https://smartelections.us/2024-election-update
https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-integrity-concerns/
My full ramble about this here:
https://lemmy.world/post/27126084
If you find out a guy who comes to poker night is cheating to win, and gets caught trying to cheat during a game, would you still agree to play with him again?
I refuse to believe that 50% of Americans would say, enthusiastically, yes.
And yet, we had evidence of Trump pressuring governors to “find extra votes”, and also the fake elector scheme, and also the January 6th coup that he watched unfold on live television and did nothing to prevent, and people think that he didn’t cheat in 2024? Am I supposed to believe that people said, yeah that’s our guy? Or it is more likely that he just cheated so well this time that he got away with it?
He should have never been allowed to run again, but useless decorum is what killed any chance at Trump ever seeing justice for his crimes against the American people. No, it would look bad if we banned the known cheater from the poker table, just let him play again and beat him fair and square this time, right?
https://youtu.be/AAg7AmyG2Ys
As cleansing as it would be for the 2024 election to actually have been stolen (how nice, I could believe in the country and my neighbors again!), none of those websites present anything close to reliable evidence. The downballot claims are not compelling.
What’s more, how many people, the absolute minimum, would need to keep a secret - people who tampered with or had knowledge of tampering with voting machines? 50? 20? 10?
The apocryphal Benjamin Franklin quote, “Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead,” is on point here. There’s no way there wouldn’t be direct evidence leaking at some point in the last 10 months if that actually happened.
I’ve read the evidence, and I find it very compelling. The down ballot claims are not the only claims. The Russian tail is the biggest tell.
The amount of people that need to keep a secret is fairly minimal, it’s IT, and the leverage of copy paste or malicious code insertion, not to mention the ability to seriously compartmentalise, is close to infinite.
If you want to share your specific concerns I’d be happy to elaborate more.
Trump and Musk have both made claims that wouldn’t really count as “keeping the secret”. I don’t know what the truth is, but I don’t rule this out.