Proposed legislation behind the impending US government shutdown contains provisions that would ban federal funding for transgender adults, as well as youngsters.
Mike Johnson shut the government down to prevent the release of the Epstein files. Full stop.
I’ve never seen such hate in a politician.
Really crazy how any other spaces but lemmy they’re saying this is the democrats fault.
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I don’t understand this at all healthcare in America is private so what the fuck does the government have to “worry” about? They are not paying for any of this.
The. Cruelty. Is. The. Point.
Believe it or not, just a tactic. The “art of the deal” is only bullying or doubling down. Find something more horrible for your opponents to fight, to distract from the real battles. We need to stand firm on healthcare for millions and the rule of law, regardless whether they threaten permanent firings, regardless whether they threaten worse to marginalized people arts of our population.
I’m not saying this behavior is in any way acceptable, just that it’s trying to move the battle lines.
Children in charge of countries…
It was never about the children.
Yes it is
It’s about hurting some of them
Trump wouldn’t hurt children, would he?
No he loves kids…
In all of their holes
Why would he? He’s a good family man, very decent
Very stable…
state of emergency incoming
the soldiers are already in place
Has anyone tried telling trump he wasn’t rich enough to be on Epstein’s list.
Not that it matters when he’s dismantling our country.
yes, but also maybe take the threat against trans people seriously? like, Trump just said he wants to ban trans healthcare. it seems like that should also be a big deal. saying that everything is a distraction from the Epstein files has become a distraction from some serious shit.
The point is that the Epstein files has been pretty much the only thing to bring cracks in Republican support for Trump.
Everyone who is upset at this news on Trans health care already know Trump is a useless piece of shit. His base on the other hand will probably cheer this on.
So driving that wedge that is the Epstein files is imperative if we want to chip away at his approval ratings and hope we can salvage this shit in next year’s midterms (I know, a stretch).
It just feels a lot like “oh, trans people? Fuck em. Show me the list!”
Like I really don’t see how it helps anything to post it here. Go talk to conservatives about it instead of posting it in threads where everyone already knows about it.
Because calling it a distraction when he is actively trying to kill me and people that I care about really just feels like y’all don’t give a shit about us either.
Personally I don’t get that impression of, “Oh, trans people? Fuck em.” It’s more, “Strike them at their pressure points because look at this kind of fucked up shit they’re doing!”
You never know who the lurkers are, and it refreshes minds of our side to go out and remain on message. It’s useful to me in that regards.
Sadly it’s just a reality that the people we need to convince already support what he’s doing on this issue.
The other stuff is also bad–the fascism and stuff–but it might be useful here.
good to know the forced death of people like me is just a distraction to you.
Oh, so when the government shuts down in a day or two, because you’re a piece of shit and no one wants to give you money to continue with being a piece of shit, of course you’re gonna blame trans kids for this
You piece of shit
I’m concerned they want to shut down that way they can keep it closed indefinitely. Funny that meeting with the top brass is coincidentally around the time of the shutdown.
A shut down is an act of Terrorism as the democrats are all ANTIFA. The generals will be ordered to seize all the democratic government offices across the country.
as the democrats are all ANTIFA.
If only that were true…
Quite a few seem pretty content.
I believe the formal most recent act of terrorism at the Capital was in fact J.6th, and I thought those guys were MAGA loyalists, thus the pardons and all?
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It’s a yearly ritual at this point.
2x yearly, if not more.
If you want to piss off a Republican, make sure to correct them that it’s Romney-care, a Republican healthcare system, anytime they call it Obamacare!
CALL HIS FUCKING BLUFF!
LET HIM DO IT AND FAIL OR WITHDRAW AND BE WEAK
How enthusiastic are ICE agents deployed to whereever going to be without a paycheck?
Looking from outside in, seems to me that this is one of those rare instances where a lot of those already doing it would happily do it as a passion project or a hobby on the side… I’d wager most people with even a trace amount of morals wouldn’t do it, not for a paycheck or otherwise.
yeah that lasts about 0 time when you are deployed.
it would be catastrophic to koral and show the forces that Trump can’t control the shit fest he’s summoned.
They are fully funded for the year apparently.
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TACO
Let them shut down the government. Keep it shut down. Let’s see how long the troops will work for free.
I’m quite confident Schumer will continue to display the backbone of a sea cucumber and capitulate with no meaningful opposition whatsoever.
We really need a nationa1l calling campaign for chuck schumer to step down.
I’d imagine “troops refusing orders because of lack of pay” is one of the first problems they’ve worked out with any shutdown
If there’s one thing this country cares about, it’s keeping the military industrial complex running
Oh no! I guess the ONLY Option is to Ban ALL Transgender Healthcare in American in exchange for NOTHING!
-Chuck Schumer!
I hope he shuts down the government, honestly… It might limit how much damage he does.
I honestly don’t think he even knows what shutting down the government actually means. I’m betting he thinks it’s just the poors not getting access to essential services, which he’s probably fine with. I’m positive he doesn’t realize that it cuts off literally every perk except for secret service that he gets as president. The entire White House staff will be sent home except for executives and unpaid interns.
I’m pretty certain you’re correct.
I’ve been loosely following along (I am not an American), and I did not realize the consequences myself. Holy shit, he’s basically halting paycheques for a lot of the people working directly and indirectly for the government.
I feel bad for those people. Hopefully they have enough to weather this storm until Taco gets advised that this action is fucking stupid as all hell.
Honestly, at this point the government already is shut down. It’s been shut down for months. We’re just still in the denial stage. Trump’s claimed and a criminally corrupt SCOTUS has endorsed Trump just refusing to pay funds allocated by Congress. There is absolutely zero point in Democrats negotiating with Republicans on this, as Trump can just refuse to pay any Democratic priorities they fund.
I have to admit, you speak the truth.
The entire White House staff will be sent home except for executives and unpaid interns.
As long as one of those interns will bring him McDonalds, he won’t care.
Can it be blamed on the Dems? Alternatively, will it trigger the libs? He’s fueled by spite and grift
Can or can’t doesn’t really matter to Trump. He will blame Democrats he will blame Biden he will blame “antifa” and he will blame immigrants. Trump is inherently incapable of taking responsibility for anything. He will just pick a group or person, usually one that is particularly irritating to him in that moment, and he will shove all the responsibility for everything that’s going wrong on them.
I was being rhetorical. He can and he’s backed by legacy and new media. Goebbels built Nazi propaganda “in a cave with a box of scraps”, imagine what can be done with AI, bots and social media.
Cis people should be scared about this too. Things like supplementing estrogen (for woman after they have gone through menopause) or testosterone is a quite normal thing. Im betting my ass, that this regulations will affect these things too.
While I understand it’s not ok to give in here, this is just an attempt to move the battle. There’s no need to justify defending human rights here (for any decent humans) but don’t let it distract us. We can’t waste time arguing this. Don’t let them move the goalposts. This is just “no” and return to the larger fight
Laws don’t bind the in-group
Until they move the in-group. Which they’ll do if they continue to get their way. They have to keep projecting power like this to keep this up, and they’ll continue to grind through subgroups of the population to do it.
The in-group is wide enough that the people at the edges are hit with the splatter when the guy at the top takes another dump.
If he makes it illegal to even provide estrogen or testosterone to patients, hospitals won’t stock it.
You’re not wrong, but you forgot that the in-group always shrink.
Also, it is usual for fascists to throw others “under the bus” as a way to save their own face.
Except that the in-group is constantly shifting, to ensure there’s always an enemy to rally the masses against. The only consistently protected group is the rich.
